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Posted on August 10, 2009 at 12:24 AM
So here's the way it works at Lollapalooza. On either the North or the South end, you have a main stage and a secondary stage. The main stage is at the center end, while the secondary stage is at an angle, occupying a far corner within the same field. So basically, two stages occupy the same field. Obviously, both stages can't be going at once. It would be two bands playing at once.
The schedule reflects this. Once a band on say, the north main stage finishes, the band on the secondary stage—remember, occupying the same field/area—begins immediately. Or vice versa. It's pretty awesome, actually. One band says goodbye, and right away, music begins on the other stage.
Except for tonight.
Band Of Horses were scheduled to end their one hour set on the secondary stage at 830. Headliners Jane's Addiction were scheduled to begin their set at 8:30 on the main stage. But that's not how it went down.
At about 8:25, Band Of Horses began "The Funeral." The BoH favorite has the qualities of a great set-closer—it seemed obvious it would be their final song. As soon as the song ended, a droning, amplified hum came from the Jane's stage. The beginning of their show was set in motion. But Band Of Horses kept playing. They began another song. Meanwhile, a HELICOPTER circled overhead, clearly meant to be timed with the beginning of the Jane's Addiction set. So Jane's is going—they can't stop. They open with "Mountain Song." However, if you were in the middle of the field or back, you couldn't really hear, because Band Of Horses was playing.
Band Of Horses, however, got a late start with their set, thanks to Lou Reed, who played well over his allotted time, possibly twenty minutes. Reed, a noted audio perfectionist, began about fifteen minutes late, after much line-checking by his crew. Reed, clearly not concerned with Lolla's tight scheduling, played his planned set, not caring to amend or shorten his setlist.
So Lou runs long. Now Band Of Horses are starting twenty minutes late. By Day 3, every Lolla attendee knows how the scheduling works. The Band Of Horses fans are pissed at Lou—they fear a shortened set. Some booing occurs. Can't we all just get along? Yes. And can't we all just stick to schedule?
So:
1. Lou Reed starts late on the Budweiser main stage, plays his entire scheduled set, setting into motion a domino effect.
2. Band Of Horses start late on the PlayStation secondary stage, play their entire scheduled set, cutting into Jane's Addiction.
3. Jane's Addiction begin their show at approximately 8:32 or so, just as Band Of Horses finish "The Funeral." The Jane's band/crew/team assume that Band Of Horses would not play another song.
4. But Band Of Horses DO play another song. And then another...
5. ...While Jane's Addiction, led by Perry Farrell, THE FOUNDER AND BIG CHIEF OF LOLLAPALOOZA, play their show (which, incidentally, later featured Joe Perry of Aerosmith guesting on "Jane Says").
6. So if you're keeping score, Lou Reed dissed Band Of Horses and their fans (like Lou cares). Band Of Horses then dissed Perry Farrell and Jane's Addiction and their fans.
Wouldn't mind hearing the backstage chatter between bands, management teams and Perry that surely went down as soon as the lights went down on Jane's Lolla-closing set.
Wow.
- Conrad Doucette
Tagged as: Music
HUGE BoH fan who was involved in the 'f Lou Reed' chant as we waited for the band to come out. Honestly, it was a moment that you would have expected in the past to just keep playing and saying f Perry. We're here for our set, we're here to play for our fans and we're not going to let them down. It was amazing and memorable and it will go down in Lolla history. Congrats Mr. Bridwell -- you're a legend.
Band of Horses is a bunch of idiots. Who cares if they got started late or Lou cut in to their time. They should have had the common sense to realize that you do NOT cut in to the the band that not only was headlining, but started the festival. I doubt they'll be invited back, nor should they be. Thanks for ruining a great few songs for those of us who waited almost 2 decades to see Jane's acome back with their original lineup, you jacka$$es.
Band of Horses should have just been straight up and started their set when scheduled, while LOU REED was still playing... It was dumb to try to push Janes Addiction back, they are the headliner. BoH is lucky they didnt just have the power shut off... I wish they would have... I was there to see JANES....plus its Perrys festival... Lets see If band of horses ever does another LOLLA
Jon P, you don't seem to get that it has nothing to do with BoH letting down their fans or not. Sorry Lou Reed cut in to your show, but you don't play over THE headlining band, end of story.
They'll just headline Pitchfork next year instead or whatever -- it's not like they NEED to play Lolla. They sold out House of Blues in no time flat, I doubt Lolla pays too much more than that. Rock stars are supposed to be rebels and not give an f. This was LEGENDARY. I was so happy to be a part of festival history. Highlight of the fest, no doubt. :)
Perry plays every year, I'm sure you can fork over your 200 next year to see a complete JA setlist and watch BoH in 2 years.
so, they're not going to play lollapalooza again. they also just become legendary. do you really think anyone would be talking about band of horses today if they didn't do what they did?
Why should BoH have gotten shafted because they were nice enough to not play through Lou Reed? They waited, and let him finish - they probably expected the same courtesy. Regardless - their set was awesome - something I can't say for Jane's Addiction. Watching a 45-year old guy prowl around and spend 5 minutes between every song talking about how much of a badass he is (I picked up this chick at the festival today) when he can only sing every-other line of his songs...no thanks. Wished I went to see the Killers.
gman and the rest -- you're right, no one would have been talking about BOH if they didn't pull that stunt. Because they're a completely generic band that brings nothing to the table musically. If they didn't want to get shafted, then ruin the set of the guy who supposedly shafted them (Lou Reed). Not the headliners whose festival it was. If you are throwing out the word "legendary" with BOH, you are clearly a teenager with no perspective. Jane's reuniting at Lollapalooza was truly legendary (especially for those of us who were there in 1991 when it at started). And it was ruined by a total juvenile stunt by a second-rate band.
who cares about any of these chumps? or any of this stupid crap?
you're right, j. i thought band of horses giving their fans what they came to see, consequences be damned, was totally rock and roll. but not when you hear that they screwed up jane’s addiction’s helicopter flyover. that’s unforgivable. you don’t screw up another band’s helicopter flyover.
ok. Can we talk about this word "Legendary"? Lou Reed is legendary. No question.
Band of Horses, I would say, is not legendary, but have very legendary-worthy sized balls.
Jane's Addiction? Apart from starting a festival that we all still love today, they have nothing legendary about them. I'm sorry. They have some really good songs, but had Perry not decided to start a touring festival to make his band's implosion seem more important, we wouldn't be talking about them today in the way we are. They are interesting, musically, but nothing new or spectacular. Highly overrated band (and I did watch half of their set, before becoming bored and going over to the Killers, who are also overrated, but at least the people over there seemed to be enjoying themselves more.)
Almost as rock and roll as selling all your songs for Toyota commercials, which BoH seems to be good at too.
But seriously, I understand you like them and were psyched they kept playing. But I mean the anger you felt at Lou Reed for going over because he just had to play 20 minutes of feedback (which was lame) was the same anger we Jane's fans feel at BoH. Jane's -- the headliners and guys who started the festival -- are not the ones that should get screwed by having to stop at 10:00. BoH should have realized the situation better and acted professionally. It's a musical festival. If everyone just did what they wanted, consequences be damned, then the whole thing wouldn't work.
same thing happened at ACL last year between BOH and Foo Fighters
you're right again. the term "legendary" gets thrown around much too easily these days. it should be reserved for things that are truly legendary. like that reality show dave navarro was in with carmen electra.
in all seriousness, it sucks that lou reed is getting a free pass in all this. someone (perry?) needed to tell him that he could fiddle with the knobs all he wanted, but he couldn't go past his scheduled end time. i mean, did he really need the perfect mix when all he did is play feedback anyway?
Yes, I agree that Lou screwed it all up. How you feel about what happened afterwards depends on your personal preference (BoH v. Jane's).
As for whether Jane's are legends -- look I doubt I'll be able to convince you guys that their music is so great, much the same why that you wouldn't be able to convince me that BoH were all that great. But at least consider this: they, more than any other band I can think of, made "alternative music" popular. In the late 80s, they were truly "alternative" -- there wasn't anyone else who looked or sounded like them. They became popular, but not yet huge. Then they absolutely broke it big with "Been Caught Stealing" -- that video and song were huge, and this was before the first Lollapalooza tour. This absolutely paved the way for Nirvana's breakout, as well as the millions of copycats that followed.
without a doubt, jane's addiction is a more influential, bigger, better band than boh could ever hope to be. but not yesterday. to me, it came down to a good old-fashioned battle of the bands and jane's got their asses handed to them by a band playing on little tiny fisher price speakers. and it wasn't just a volume thing either. boh was tighter than they'd been the whole rest of the show. and the crowd totally fed off it. it was a pretty amazing thing to be a part of. i'm just sorry it came at the expense of someone else's performance. especially someone none of us would've been there without.
The Replacements and the Pixies were far more influential than Jane's.
Yep.
gman hit the nail on the head! We all knew something had to happen at the end of the BoH set, but how it all went down was truely amazing. Best part of the 3 days.
t- I'm a huge Pixies fan. I understand that both they and the Replacements are awesome and hugely influential on other musicians. But my point was a little different. I was talking about Jane's being influential as an alternative band that a) was actually alternative (unlike REM, who people considered alternative but were actually pretty mainstream musically and aesthetically) and b) enjoyed huge crossover success. I never remember the Pixies or the Replacements being popular in the way Been Caught Stealing and the whole Ritual album was. MTV played that video every 5 seconds!
Other bands definitely copy the Pixies and Replacements a lot more than they do Jane's. But that cuts both ways -- in 30+ years since their first album, I still haven't heard a band that sounds like Jane's.
Who listens to Janes Addiction anyway? And saying you just like Jane Says doesn't count. Perry Farrell should just stick to organizing a show and not screw the people he's booked for it. I was at BOH and much like those fans of JA, came to see their set and was disappointed to think they would only be able to play a 30 min. set. Perry should have held off out of respect or yanked old man Reed off the stage.
I just think it was a total insult and diss to Mr.Farrell and co. I was there and in the back and the bleed thru was really annoying.WHAT A BIG FUCK YOU to the organizers of the show.... they should have pulled the plug!
instead of being mad at band of horses for having the audacity to play while saint perry was playing, you should be mad at jane's addiction for not being able to blow an alt-country band off the fucking stage. somehow, i can't picture this sort of thing happening to rage against the machine.
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Very lame. I was pissed that you crammed 3 epic days into 1 hour. And why the hell would you advertise Coheed and Cambria on the TV if you didn't bother to put them into the lineup?
Glad I went to Lollapalooza this year, because your coverage sucked.